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Click the picture on the left to visit a website by Dave Casper.

It gives the history of the neutrino and the many current experiments to capture and measure it.

A Speculation about Neutrinos
On the webpage http://www.ps.uci.edu/~superk/nuosc.html  the first sentence states that “In five distinct measurements, Super-Kamiokande finds neutrinos apparently "disappearing".” It goes on to state that this is unlikely because mass just can’t disappear... Don Limuti comment: The mass just does not disappear but it does λ-hop and if you do not know where it hops, you think it disappeared. The actual particle is a Planck Instant (neutrino) and a hop (see Section 30). A detected neutrino is like discovering a footprint on the ground and saying that it was caused by just an elephant foot, and forgetting about the elephant attached to the foot.

What is a neutrino according to DWT (warning: this is high speculation .... keep your eyes open)
A neutrino is what has been to this point called a Planck Instance.  That makes it the fundamental building block of all matter and energy.  The diagram below shows a Planck Instant λ-hopping as developed in Section 30.  Since the energy of the light is inversely related to the wavelength (E=hc/λ), a long wavelength electromagnetic wave would have very little energy compared to visible light.

    What would light with a wavelength of 50,000 km look like if it came from the sun?
If we are standing on the earth, we would have difficulty observing it because the earth has a diameter of less than 13,000 km.  The Planck Instant (neutrino) would be most likely to just hop over the earth, but many of them because of random timing would hop into the earth’s interior and then hop out.  Detecting this penetrating Planck Instant would not necessarily deter it from hopping out of the earth and continuing its journey across the universe.

Does the Sun produce photons with up to 50,000 km wavelengths?
I think so (lots of them), in spite of the many published solar light spectrum diagrams that show maximum wavelengths of solar radiation of about 100cm.  The thing to keep in mind is that ultra long wavelengths have very little energy and even though the black body radiation intensity trails off at long wavelengths there are still plenty of photons at very long wavelengths.  If we had black body energy spectrums that plotted number of photons vs. wavelength (instead of intensity vs. wavelength) we would not be fooled about the number of long wavelength photons that are produced by the sun.   Thus, it is likely that the sun produces lots of very long wavelength light.

The Nature of the Neutrino: It is not unreasonable to suspect that a neutrino is what I have been referring to as a Planck Instant.  This means that red light is just a string of neutrinos, and a 50,000 km wavelength light wave is also just a string of neutrinos.  And yes we can detect a Planck Instance (neutrino) when it lands, but then it will disappear. 
    The reader may object that if red light consisted of neutrinos we would have found them with our neutrino detectors.  But the thing to remember is that our neutrino detectors are designed to keep light out.  These large neutrino detectors all use photo detectors to detect the effects of a neutrino hit.  If short wavelength light is introduced into a neutrino detector they would be saturated with neutrino hits.  It would be easy to misunderstand this and think of the short wavelength light as noise hitting the detector.  All light (or if you prefer electro-magnetic radiation) consists of neutrinos at various wavelengths.  It should not be too hard to verify this experimentally.  Of course if the neutrino is indeed the Planck Instant then it is also the fundamental constituent of particles as well, see       section 30.  This foundational nature of the neutrino is a big speculation of Don Limuti on 4/20/2014.

Author’s Note:  A few months after my insight about the neutrino, I found that Louis deBroglie had come to a similar conclusion in 1932.  See this Wikipedia site.  Louis deBroglie made the hypothesis that the photon was not an elementary particle but a progression of a neutrino and an anti-neutrino.  In the work presented here, I simplify things a bit and say that the photon is a fundamental particle that is a neutrino that λ-hops. The neutrino itself is not considered a particle, but the building block of all photons and particles. Current physics experiments find neutrinos as independent particles and misses the fact that they have both very small and very large wavelengths. For more related information check out: Section 36 (also check out Section 17).

Does Light have a mass?
The model of light developed in DWT would indicate that light does not technically have a mass because there are no Compton wavelengths associated with it (see Section 30). 

Does a Neutrino have mass?

A neutrino is either associated with:
1. A Compton wavelength (where it hops back and forth becoming either the mass of a particle or a
     graviton see section 17). In this instance the neutrino is mass like.
2. A deBroglie wavelength (where it hops in one direction becoming light energy, aka a photon).
     In this instance the neutrino looks like energy and has no mass. See section 30.

3. When Neutrinos have large wavelengths things become very complex about its identity.

More about neutrinos disappearing
A long wavelength Planck Instant (neutrino) entering the earth from the sun can do the following:

  1. a. Have no interaction, it just keeps going on its long λ-hopping journey.

  2. b. Interact with the particles of the earth. Then something like Compton scattering happens (the long wavelength becomes even longer), where the energy difference becomes a short light wavelength which can be detected as neutrino events.

A Proposed Instrument:
It would be very useful to develop a powerful laser light source that produces an ultra long wavelength.  This ultra IR light beam (wavelengths out to tens of kilometers) would be directed at all the possible neutrino detectors (existing and proposed) to determine if neutrinos really are the “thingy” part of light.

This laser light source could possibly be built using two satellites. This would probably be quite a challenge.  An alternative way to get long wavelength light, would be to design a special free electron laser with as long a length as possible, perhaps out to a few kilometers.  It may also be possible to use large radio transmitters (antennas) to do the job, but the radiation produced would not be as precise as a laser source.

The Proposed Experiment:
Aim the developed ultra long wavelength light beam at neutrino detectors (like Super-Kamiokande) and determine if the long photons are indeed detected as neutrinos.

A New Territory to Investigate

Richard Feynman lectured that there is lots of room at the bottom, meaning nano technology.  In the same spirit, there is lots of room for the expansion of physics at the ultra long wavelengths of light.  This expansion of physics would increase our knowledge of quantum phenomena (including gravity).

For more on the neutrino-gravity connection see section 36.


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